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Jun. 22, 2015

I found out this morning that there was a DMCA takedown complaint submitted to Google for taking down this page:

managewp.org/articles/3658/remove-comment-form-support-from-any-wordpress-theme

Here is the original DMCA takedown request:

www.chillingeffects.org/notices/1503117

Although this is back from 2013, I am wondering what are your thoughts regarding this and should managewp.org guidelines be stricter.

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Tim Nash

So the DMCA take down is invalid
"The entire pages content including text and images have been republished in breach of my sites (terms of use - copyright policy) which clearly states only 1 paragraph can be republished with attribution wpsites.net/disclosure-privacy/"

The submitted story does not have the content republished, I'm guessing it got caught in an automated process, more worrying that Google agreed without clarifying.

Personally I would remove wpsites.net and the site permanently blocked in future, regardless of their intent.

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Brad Dalton

Check the wayback machine postimg.org/image/nh1l366aj/

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Ahmad Awais

I agree with Tim, you should ban such a site regardless of their intent. WPManage.org doesn't even let us publish the same content. If they don't want extra exposure, so be it. Seriously, we belong to a community which loves GPL.

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Brad Dalton

GPL applies to themes and plugin licensing, not copyright and website content.

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Ahmad Awais

And there is no web content or copyright infringement at WPManage is there?

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Brad Dalton

Google approved it.

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Ahmad Awais

Doesn't make it right! I don't follow Google to learn Ethics.

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Ryan Love

Perhaps before we get the pitch folks out and burn them at the stake, we could get their side of events.

For all we know this was done against the site owners knowledge by an seo company acting on their behalf or some automated software.

As to your question Vladimir, I don't think the guidelines need to be stricter, in fact the takedown request is clearly nonsense as the page hasn't taken any content from the original site.

The snippet of text added by Donna is clearly her own and the page on managewp is simply providing a link to the article.

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Brad Dalton

Thanks for half the support. As the way back shows, its been changed now.

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Vladimir Prelovac

It seems that Brad Dalton (site ownser) later decided to use managewp.org

managewp.org/members/1392/brad-dalton

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Eric Karkovack

It's all gone too far. The way we communicate and share information has changed so much since the DMCA was put into effect.

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Brad Dalton

Check the wayback machine which shows the content has been removed and the post Vladimir linked too has been altered postimg.org/image/nh1l366aj/

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Matt Cromwell

Pretty petty stuff. I looked at the "Way back machine". The paragraph that appeared was escaped text, barely legible. There's no way that is competing for attention from your website. Instead, ManageWP.org is and always has been a powerful way to boost traffic to your site. Why in the world would you haggle over a jumbled mess of text? ManageWP.org is one of the best, highest quality referrals we get to our sites routinely. Be thankful, be kind, move on.

Vladimir, standards and practices here are top notch. Keep up the good work!

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Brad Dalton

And how did Vladimir find out about this? He hasn't said.

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Vladimir Prelovac

Somebody tweeted about it yesterday

twitter.com/srikat/status/612874793868619776

Brad, you later started using and shared many articles from your site on managewp.org, yet you seem to still hold a pretty 'hard' attitude towards this. Something doesn't add up :)

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Ahmad Awais

That's strange! File a DMCA report and then start using the site. This is very interesting www.chillingeffects.org/notices/search?sender_name=Brad+Dalton

WPBeginner too.

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Brad Dalton

Vladimir. Yes because his site is full of stolen work. And you support him. He's started a malicious campaign against me because Google has approved dozens of DMCA takedown notices against him to the point he has put all the stolen content behind a paywall and is now selling access to it. What i suggest you do if Google approves a DMCA is respect Googles decision. Apologise and remove the content. Then you can re-apply to get the URL reindexed. Why twist it around and blame the victim? Its low class and it shows very poor character and judgement. To then write a post about it is also very unprofessional as i have written many posts in support of your product. You are supporting a malicious campaign against me which was started by srikat who rapes the internet and fights for his right to rape the internet of other peoples work. I see the supporters on the page are bullies and thugs. They are weak cowards who support bad behaviour. If you have any real strength, do the right thing, admit your mistake, learn from it and move on. ithemes.com/2015/05/27/jealousy-is-sabotaging-your-prosperity/

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Brad Dalton

I have no problem with sharing content here if its done fairly. I have no problem with your product, i like it and have written many posts about it. My problem is when you pull in the entire posts content and republish it then outrank me because you have a higher domain authority. To do that to people who own smaller sites about WordPress and share here is unfair. My copyright policy is fair and states you may take the featured image and first paragraph. Why can't you respect that and ask for permission if you want to republish the entire post? On top of this, you get your staff to bully me on Twitter. Why?

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Vladimir Prelovac

You say things like 'you support him' and 'get your staff to bully me on Twitter' which are both untrue and a sign that your perception of the reality of this is very much different to mine.

To clarify managewp.org did indeed show a snippet of text from the submitted link in 2013 when it launched, but this changed quickly as we forced everyone to leave a meaningful summary which I think is more valuable information to have. Its intention was never to steal anyones content, but rather to help more people find the article interesting enough to visit it.

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