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ManageWP.org improvements, new algorithm & more!

Community | Aug. 27, 2018

Hey gang,

I am happy to announce that in the past couple of weeks we've been busy fixing up ManageWP.org in order to improve the quality of articles served on the Popular page, and the overall page speed. Here's a short recap of work done.

New algorithm favors fresh articles
A while back we fixed a lot of issues with karma and how they impacted the Popular articles. But that backfired in a spectacular way: the fixed ranking algorithm favored articles upvoted by users with high karma, to such an extreme that these articles remained on the top of Popular for months. So we took another stab at it, and the new article ranking has a much faster decay, helping you see fresh news every day.

Goodbye karma
Karma has been giving us a ton of performance issues, so we decided to drop it. It's replaced by a much more straightforward activity score, akin to Reddit: there's no ranking decay, and the more you share, vote and comment, the higher the rank. Top ranking users will have a more influential vote than rookies. Your rank is currently hidden, but at some point we will make it public. It's worth noting that we're not resetting anyone's rank. Instead, we're calculating it based on your past activity.

We're actively combating spam
We recently saw a spike in spam comments. Unfortunately, since users can register with just their social media accounts, we had a flood of spam accounts dropping backlinks left and right. So we decided to implement captcha in the comments, and it worked like charm. We also stripped all links from the comments - they are replaced by plain text URL. If you want to follow a link in the comment, simply c/p it.

What's next?
For starters, we need your feedback on the ranking algorithm. Please fill out the survey and let us know how to improve it:

We also plan to improve the moderation tools and get more volunteers aboard. If you're interested in helping, let me know, as we're be expanding our moderation team once everything is in place.

As always, don't hesitate to drop your feedback in the comments. This website is yours as well, and I'd love to hear any thoughts that would help us improve the experience for everyone.

What about the current vote strength that's displayed on our profiles?
Your last algorithm change messed it up badly, punishing active users who ended up with a much lower vote strength than newly registered users with 0 activity.

via Eusebiu Oprinoiu

Excellent that you've taken the bull by the horns, there had been a bit of a decay, recently, so I'm thrilled you've taken the effort to do this - thank you!

Great that spam is being handled neatly.

Re the ranking algorithm, we'll have to see how it works out in general, I do tend to stay back from commenting and sharing, but I do upvote articles which really hit the sweet spot. So I'm a semi-lurker so to speak, with stringent "requirements" for upvoting :-)

Hope that doesn't impact my "influence"...just wanted to make the comment public, since it might be a valid concern for other people like myself.


via David Attard

Isnt' it somewhat ironic that a site that is "All things WordPress" doesn't actually run on Wordpress? Shouldnt you be setting a practical example?
Also for me, your "Best New Plugins" page results have been broken for weeks. No results are found for any given query.

via NoOrdinaryCat

The current vote strength is no longer relevant, and will be removed from the profiles soon.

via Nemanja Aleksic

Thanks for letting me know, we'll get it fixed.

ManageWP.org was an experiment in new tech to create an interactive website, before we implemented it into the ManageWP product. So we decided to build something for the community, since WordPress was not capable of this back in the day.

via Nemanja Aleksic

That's cool, upvotes are an imoportant piece of helping quality content stay on top. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, David!

via Nemanja Aleksic

I should spam the crap out of ManageWP

Community | Jul. 4, 2018

I should spam the crap out of ManageWP.org .

I mean, apparently, I'm behind the times, right?

Looks like everyone else is already spamming ManageWP, and I've been left in the dust. I should get all my backlinks from here!

Here's a perfect example. Look at the comments on https://managewp.org/articles/16787/getting-ready-for-gutenberg-helping-developers-prepare-for-it . WTF?

I guess this is what happens when you sell your soul to the devil. (Or Godaddy?)

Obviously, no one gives a crap any longer. Probably time to abandon ship.

Not sure what's taking so long to treat the spam situation, but I think I read somewhere that they were working on it..
With that said - guys, seriously, the amount of spam comments on here is getting obscene.

via Kobe Ben Itamar

I want to flag some spam comments but vote strength is not stronger enough.

via tudoutou

Flagging spam doesn't help, so don't worry. ;-)

via JS Morisset

I don't think it actually has anything to do with GoDaddy, but there was a more extended discussion of it here: managewp.org/articles/17531/am-i-the-only-one-who-noticed-the-number-of-spam-comments-is-too-high

via Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with 'sketch')

This should include a community comment as well as a warning message to the user

via Bao Anh

Am I the only one who noticed the number of spam comments is too high?

Community | Jun. 18, 2018

I noticed this trend that the number of spam accounts and the number of comments left by these bots? is increasing. Just take a look at this thread here:


Or this:

Or this:

Any ideas or solution?

It's really annoying, and ManageWP doesn't seem to care -- I've sent lots of feedback and flagged comments -- no change.

I've started to visit ManageWP less and less since the quality of comments is going to shit.

via JS Morisset

Have noticed this too, and flagged tons of these spam comments. Make the comment links nofollow, will deter this behavior.

via John Locke

There has been no moderation since months now...

via pol taj

And for obvious reasons. John has a point.

via Binod Kumar Anand

@Pol I have to respectfully disagree. The moderation team is just one person, and I have been busy with WCEU in our own back yard. Otherwise I clean up comments once a week, or whenever I have some extra time.

On a related note, there has been too much spam going on lately, but not sure if nofollow would be enough. My knee-jerk reaction would be to remove links altogether. What do you all think?

via Nemanja Aleksic

Hi Nemanja,

I think nofollow wouldn't be enough, removing links altogether might be a better solution, but I have the feeling that even without links spam won't disappear. Isn't there a way to manually review and approve or reject new accounts? I know this could be definitely a time-consuming task.
Btw. I hope you had a great time on WCEU!

via Tom Zsomborgi

Karma & vote strength in 2018

Community | Feb. 12, 2018

Hey all,

First of all, I'd like to thank you all for putting up with the glitches that have been plaguing us in the past several months. What started as a way to stabilize the website, unrolled as a continuing series of troubleshooting one issue after another.

Here's a short timeline of the key events:
- Several months ago ManageWP.org started having stability issues. Our investigation found that it was hitting the hosting resource limit due to suboptimal code. Most of these issues revolved around the way karma is calculating everything but your blood cell count.
- As we dug into the karma algorithm we managed to simplify the calculation, but also fixed the calculation errors that caused karma to balloon for some users.
- After some celebratory high fives, we realized that the karma calculation, now fixed, is actually bad. It siphons karma from contributors, rewarding passive activity. That's why our most prolific users ended up with very low vote strength

So at that point we had a choice:
- Roll back to the original karma algorithm, and bring back stability issues
- Tweak the current algorithm
- Roll up our sleeves, rip out the karma algorithm and replace it with a meaningful algorithm that rewards active contributors

So we opted for no.3, cleared up the schedule for several developers, and got down to business. We should be able to get the new algorithm in place in the next few weeks.

What can you expect?

Karma will be retired
While a fun little gamification, it's not a contributing factor. The vote strength is the true value there. And since both of them are based on the same stats (i.e. shares, upvotes, etc.), we will focus on the vote strength. The higher vote strength you have, the more impact your upvote will have.

Vote strength will be tiered
Based on your activity, you will be placed in one of the 3 tiers:
- Average vote strength: the default strength that you start with
- High vote strength: an active contributor, with a fair share of shares, upvotes & comments
- Exceptional vote strength: the most active percentage of the member base

Sharing rights will be given automatically after certain amount of activity. This will help new users become active, since in the current state a moderator has to approve the request manually.

Better moderation
We're introducing a couple of tools that will make moderation easier, and at the same time we'll log all the actions so we could go back and see why a moderator removed a particular article.

Feedback loop
We will definitely need your help fine tuning the new algorithm. We will also need to start a conversation on what constitutes a good article, because our article guidelines are also due for an update. Expect more feedback posts in the future, and we're also looking at setting up a Trello board to discuss various topics.


Those are our plans for 2018 in a nutshell. Let me know your thoughts, since all of you as much members of the community as I am.

Thanks for the update! Did you convert the original Karma Points to the new vote strength or we'll start again? Also, what is your new support email? I can't seem to get a response, my post privilege got removed. Thank you very much!

via Phpbits Studio

I would like to propose finding a way to honor old user as well, so besides dropping all stat, maybe apply the new algorithm on old data or keep old data, apply the new rule on new input.

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

Yes, I probably should have pointed out:

The new algorithm will use the existing data, so people with long track record will already have a higher vote strength.

Please drop me a line at nemanja.aleksic@managewp.com - our spam filter was getting more aggressive lately.

via Nemanja Aleksic

Great to know you guys are willing to invest a substantial amount of the company's resources into improving ManageWP.org.

I think that at this point it has become almost irreplaceable for most of its members and it would have been a shame to have to watch it slowly decline due to bugs/an incompetent algorithm.

via Kobe Ben Itamar

Finally, I've been waiting for all this to happen for so long :)

Glad to see you folks are coming around and spending time on this community project.

Here's what I think you should look at:
- Emoji Support: This site is an emoji-racist :P I can't use emoji here.
- Bad Algo: Members listed at the top in the member listing are normally not very active. I think I have explained this to you in details over the chat we had @Nemaja
- Homepage Doesn't update anymore
- Maybe go React if you can spend that much time and build an application that can be used both here and on mobile?
- Comment Flag messaging is not right. When I flag a comment it kindov feels like I am flagging the post itself.

Looking forward!

via Ahmad Awais

Thank you for your feedback and support, Ahmad!

No dice on emojis, tho. I've seen your Slack messages and Facebook posts - you need an emoji intervention :D

via Nemanja Aleksic

Commenting on blog posts is dying

Community | Jun. 4, 2017

I have a problem finding a blog with meaningful comments section nowadays. 10 years ago comments on blogs flourished, while today even once comment-heavy blogs have their comments sections virtually empty.

Have the Web moved on? Is taking time to write a comment, time that we do not have any more?

Absolutely true. Though there are very engaging content and specially controversial conversation has more engagement like always, but its really not what we have seen a decade ago. Few things came into my mind.

1) Our behavior and specially web experience is more maturing(not sure if that the right word), and its shifting towards a different kind of conversation.
2) Even from the rise of Snapchat its proven we are hugely changed. Now people are careful what are they saying and who are seeing it.
3) Though it might sound a little different but you see the way we became too conservative about do-follow, no-follow, link back, previously if somebody just read a good article would have left a comment saying that you, courtesy and also a simple link back, now there are so many conversation whats right, whats wrong, whats blackhat and whats not.
4) Even commenting without login (with social login exp: Facebook Comment) still not much engagement. Maybe different breed of people are coming online now, they are shy, or dont have much to add.

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

I think twitter affected our commenting behaviour, 10 years ago twitter wasn't used as effectively as it is today.

Btw, is there any intensedebate users these days? just curious :)

via Mustafa Uysal

There are multiple reasons why the trend is dying. I believe the diversification of contents is one of these. Previously, engaging visual contents like infographic, GIF or slides were not as plenty as it is today. Now readers have umpteenth times more social media exposure and easily consumable contents than before. Concentration and density falls as the quantity and rapidity of the blogs increases.

Another major factor is creating nice or establishing yourself as an expert in a certain category. People these days do not respond to contents that are not positioned strongly. It is more like building a brand. And when there is one overpowering brand in a particular field, it produces an unfavorable situation for competitors. Because even if the others are offering high quality contents, people will remember that one brand that had first-mover advantage.

And somehow that is where most of the enthusiastic readers are going to comment.

via Rafi Nizamee

Your perception is correct, as far as I can see on blogs, although, I not sure it is accurate to say that we have "moved on" from commenting. Or that we don't take the time to do that anymore. It seems to me that commenting on content is simply done elsewhere, outside of the blogs' comments section.
With the growth of content being published on blogs - many people find it hard to "follow" only several favorite blogs, and do not discover new content via their RSS feed or something like that. Rather, they get exposed to it on social media, and that's where they express their opinions on the content, as well.

via Kobe Ben Itamar

I think it's a combination of less time, and the proliferation of Like/Share buttons that killed comments. It's so much quicker to click a like button or a share button, than it is to type out a comment. I can express my gratitude for what I just read, without having to take the time to put words to "paper", so to speak. And if I do share, I'm more likely to place any comment I have in the share itself.

via Donna Cavalier

I think you are right. Twitter also changed how users use the web, but let's not forget that in the last 10 years the content available online has been multiplied. We produce more content in a day than we did 10 years ago during a whole year. And let's be honest, most of the new content you see today doesn't worth commenting, it's about quantity and not quality. When you produce something cool, useful and you have an engaged audience (+ promote the hell out of it) users will start leaving comments.

One interesting fact : Copyblogger removed comments a while back because it took them a lot of time to manage it and told users to continue the conversation on the social media. The marketing world was full with this story. Now if you check the site you can see that comments are enabled again :)

via Tom Zsomborgi

Best local WordPress development environment?

Community | Oct. 2, 2017

Need to do a WordPress site for a hobby and am wondering what do you use nowadays to develop WordPress locally? I remember tools like WAMP back in the day. Also do you still develop sites locally or latency is not an issue any more for most purposes?

I have a dev server on the net. I use that, not local. Works fine.

via Donna Cavalier

I've been using Laragon. Pretty easy to get setup and going:


via David McCan

Been using local.getflywheel.com/ and it's easier :)

via Phpbits Studio

A lot of us was used to in VV, but now I find Local By Flywheel is the best for Mac or Windows. Its interesting that you have asked this Vladimir, I have a planned blog post about this from last month!

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

Please do that. Is the number #1 reason people still use local dev. env. just speed and performance of development or is there something else now?

via Vladimir Prelovac

I would say stability and community around it (means support). And Local is made solely for WP, and it does not crash like VVV if you restarted your System without turning off Vagrant properly. And the way it binds WP-CLI and others tools built-in I can't expect anything else for a free tool, if you ask me I would have paid $100 for this.

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

All articles about Gutenberg (ever?)

Community | Sep. 7, 2017

In case you missed one or looking for a specific one:


That is a lot of posts. Interestingly every single one received at least 18 votes. If you want guaranteed first spot you know what you need to do :)

Lol. That makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing this search url. Though given how important this topic is, still I feel we are seeing too many conversations, and I feel, it will still happen as planned, not as people give feedback, and later the logic like beyond 80-20 will come. Sadly!
That is the reason, I do see its pretty pointless to discuss, rather better to get involved in development, or start making the cope-up plan!

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

Something's wrong with your search functionality, because I immediately noticed that mine isn't in the list, though it is here (although it ONLY received 12 votes). Gutenberg Will Confuse The Crap Out of Almost Everyone. (Maybe you have a "crap" filter in place, LOL).

via Donna Cavalier

You are right, it seems that load more for searches does not work.

via Vladimir Prelovac

It's a hot topic. :)

via Ahmad Awais

How do you perceive GoDaddy as your (potential) partner and provider of tools and services?

Community | May. 19, 2017

Hey everyone

I am interested in how do you perceive GoDaddy's brand giving it a simple score from 1 to 100 (100 being best) and why?

Looking to gather as much as feedback possible. Don't be shy, open up :)



I've been a GoDaddy customer for a little over 10 years. It started with domain names, then hosting a few small sites on their shared Linux hosting, and now having referred a handful of clients to their Managed WordPress hosting platform.

I used to despise their old brand, and the advertising that went along with it. But I've seen all the changes happening with the new leadership that came in a few years ago.

One of their senior VPs commented on a blog post I did comparing their speed with that of WP Engine's. I've had numerous fantastic interactions with members of their support team, where they've given me their direct line & email, and gone above and beyond to help. And my cousin got a job on their security team about a year ago, and raves about what it's like to work there (and he has pretty high standards).

Their UI has been continually improving for the better part of two years. Their managed WordPress product is incredibly easy to use. They are very active in the community, participating here on this site, commenting on WP-related blogs/forums, sponsoring prominent WordPress folks to contribute to core.

They are aware of the negative perceptions people have from how they did things in the past, and they aren't afraid to acknowledge them. From what I've seen, they are listening to the community, and trying to improve.

With all that being said, I think their product offerings still leave a little to be desired. They don't support PHP 7 yet, nor do they offer free SSL certs via Let's Encrypt. I realize selling SSLs is probably a large part of their business, but it's tough to compare free vs. $70/yr. when I'm trying to recommend hosting to my clients & colleagues.

But in terms of their BRAND, which was the initial question, I'd give them very high ratings. I hope to see them continue down the path they are currently on, and hopefully never turn into something like that of EIG.

via Dave Warfel

12 out of 100 - Brand is bad enough in my experience to walk away from ManageWP when they purchased it. I was happy for you, but couldn't bring myself to use a Godaddy product or service. And it's not just their history, though that certainly plays a huge part in it. But even recently (a few months ago, maybe, don't remember exactly), I had to deal with a client whose PHP version was very old, and it was the highest available. Again, I don't remember the details right now, but it was frustrating, and just typical of all of the Godaddy issues over the years. There's no point in rehashing all of the past woes. Bad company, bad product, bad service. Just can't get past all of it. Sorry.

via Donna Cavalier

I don't have much opinion of them either way now. I had a couple of domains with them and using their old admin interface was horrible. It was hard to find the simple things I wanted to do, and they were spending more time upselling new stuff than letting me get on with managing my domains. Then there's all the ethics and stuff - dodgy adverts that were all about boobs rather than the product, the ceo who was a scumbag etc.

Over the last couple of years they seem to have been making big steps to improve their image (presumably why you have asked this). I no longer use their service but the adverts have improved massively, and their participation in the WordPress community appears genuine.

I think it will take a lot to get past the negative feelings people had of them in the past but they are heading in the right direction.

via Ben Gillbanks

2 -
They are a direct competitor
They have a dire reputation, which while have had some brand reputation improvements still to many horror services
They are a US based company which immediately opens up data protection issues
Their purchasing strategy while positive in that they are picking good companies (High ManageWP peeps) hasn't yet shown how they will gut those companies long term.

We would have been interested in working with several of their now subsumed companies historically prior to being bought. However there is no amount of assurances about their independence that I think we would trust given who the parent is.

via Tim Nash

No thanks

via JazzFan Junkie

Thanks Dave. SSL is a big pain and a large business on its own but I think we are about to solve that. It goes without saying that next generation WordPress hosting will support PHP7. Stay tuned.

via Vladimir Prelovac

Top WordPress brands (Sep 2017 update)

Community | Sep. 6, 2017


Previous status and methodology:


Congrats to WPEngine for keeping the title of the strongest WP brand!

Notably, WPTavern overtook WooThemes for #2 spot, ManageWP overtook WPMUDev for #6, and Pagely made the biggest jump in terms of gaining brand equity.

As a side note, all these brands together follow less than 12,000 unique people.

What does this mean though? Brand strength on ManageWP.org?

via Jeff

It is a general measure of brand strength measured by using Twitter.

Methodology is explained here:


Short version:
We assume that the top brands will jointly follow all the influencers in the market. Percentage of those influencers following each brand back is the measure of that brands' strength.

via Vladimir Prelovac

Do you have this tool to be used by the public? I'd love to take a stab at it for my Twitter profile twitter.com/mrahmadawais/

via Ahmad Awais

Nope, twitter api limitations make it unusable for anything more than these 13 brands basically.

via Vladimir Prelovac

Would I be correct in guessing that the results might be different if you were getting the data from other sources (Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, Snapchat)? Presumably we wouldn't have 100% influencer overlap, or brand overlap, or followership overlap.

Also, though Woo is still a distinct brand, in terms of total influence we'd probably have to say that Automattic-owned companies when combined take up the major share of that list. And Matt Mullenweg owns WP Tavern, too, though it's Audrey and not Automattic that employs the staff there.

via Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with 'sketch')

Twitter followers is a suboptimal metric to measure brand strength. Too easy to buy a bunch of followers (not to imply that anyone on this list has doing that).

via John Locke

Is everyone done writing about Gutenberg yet?

Community | Sep. 8, 2017

Asking for a friend.

Not yet, but hopefully soon.

via Rod Austin

I have not even started yet! Lol! But I stopped sharing it here though!

via M Asif Rahman Ⓦ

Of course not. There have been two new versions in two weeks and there will be plenty to write about as it evolves. Yes, it seems tiresome to see "all Gutenberg, all the time" news, especially if multiple people post similar articles, but each new version has addressed concerns raised with earlier versions, so the people who have already written about it need to go back to it, check on it, and perhaps write something again (or not, if they don't think the newer version changes what they said before).

As with any popular topic, don't write about it if you don't have something new to say, but at present I'd rather see new people's impressions of a newer Gutenberg than the same "Ultimate Guide to WordPress Security/SEO/Whatever" with exactly the same points in it regurgitated by a new author/agency once a month.

via Sallie Goetsch (rhymes with 'sketch')

Have written four times about it. Three more getting published this month.

via Ahmad Awais

It's a massive change to the core of the thing many of us use daily/ earn a living from. I imagine the articles will keep on coming long after it's released.

via Ben Gillbanks

Who's your WP #secretmentor?

Community | Dec. 21, 2017

This holiday season, in order to highlight people who have helped me grow, I'm flipping things around on "secret santa" and announcing "secret mentor"

I nominated Jake Goldman of 10UP as my #secretmentor for all the help he has provided me over the years. What about you, who has helped you become who you are, whether they know it or not?

Watch my video here: https://youtu.be/socl-x4fQ6k

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via Himanshu arya

User Voting Counts reset?

Community | Jan. 12, 2018

Looks like voter counts were totally reset... which I guess that's fine, but I'd love to hear why and how and what else you all have in store for ManageWP.org this 2018.

p.s. I'd love it if my voter count was restored too since it was quite good previously, but it's your platform.

Yeah, I noticed it immediately. I think it was a couple of weeks ago or so. Thought it was just a glitch and would get fixed, but it never did.

via Donna Cavalier


via Tom Zsomborgi

Thanks Tom. I commented over there. Hoping this gets resolved. I mean... it's not a huge deal, but I've been sharing hear for IDK... four years maybe. We'll see.

via Matt Cromwell

Yeah, and I'm way down towards the bottom of the list now. A little unsettling....

via Donna Cavalier

Here's a quick update, but I will follow up tomorrow morning with more info:

The karma system in its state up to a few weeks ago was broken, and it was assigning way more karma than it should have. We were refactoring ManageWP.org for the past month, and it's when we realized this.

The current karma calculation is much more precise, but the whole karma system is fundamentally broken. We learned that there are plenty of ways to be ranked quite high without contributing to the community in any meaningful way.

More on this tomorrow, and thank you for your patience with this.


via Nemanja Aleksic

The other frustrating thing is having new posts never show up on the front page. I've had stuff marked as "popular" but never gets beyond the "Latest" listing.

via Eric Karkovack

Can I get your advice on this?

Community | Feb. 28, 2018


I'm Brian(https://twitter.com/madeinbrian) a rookie WordPress developer
and the reason I'm writing is because, I wanted your advice on a platform I've been working on for the WP community.

But first, here is my problem, for years I have been turning to trusty Google for help finding "the best BuddyPress themes" etc... I would then have to sift through either, outdated recommendations, a biased list which existed only to earn a commission or lists based on the opinion of one author.

This bugged me for years, which lead me to spend the last year and a half pouring every penny I had into creating Softwarefindr.com.

A platform I created to solve this issue. Where you get truly unbias recommendation from someone that has been in your shoes, that best understands your problem and has actually bought and/or used the product in question. Instead of being based on one analyst opinion you can now leverage the experience of hundreds if not thousands of users who came before you.

Why am I sharing all of this?

Because I need your advice to help further improve the platform for our fellow WP users,
In keeping with the example, I gave above, check out: https://www.softwarefindr.com/best/buddypress-wordpress-themes/

Could you please leave your feedback below on these questions:

What if anything made it easy to find a theme?

What if anything made it challenging to find a theme?

What piece of information would be most important to you when choosing a theme?

Then lastly did I miss something?

I know that you are busy people, so thank you in advance for any bit of advice you can share, which will help shape the platform to serve the WordPress community better.

Have a blessed week,


Thank you to everyone that upvoted this thread :) It's very encouraging :)

via WP Growth